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\nDr. Rub\u00e9n Feldman Gonz\u00e1lez’s
\nintimate dialogues with Krishnamurti – memorized after the encounter, not
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\nI met Krishnamurti on March the
\n23rd 1975 in San Francisco, California. I have already written about that. My
\nlast name is Feldman Gonzalez but Krishnamurti addressed me only as Dr.
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\nMarch 24, 1975 (Huntington Hotel – San Francisco, California) <\/font><\/b><\/p>\n
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\nKrishnamurti: Sorry, I made you wait. I was doing some Hatha Yoga.
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\nRuben: No problem. Thank you for receiving me again. I would like to discuss
\nthe fact that you are the instructor of the world (or the Second Coming).
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\nKrishnamurti: You worry about the irrelevant.
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\nRuben: It is relevant for me, because if you are the Instructor of the
\nWorld, then I want to be an apostle.
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\nKrishnamurti: There are no more apostles, Dr. Gonzalez. It is of critical
\nurgency that human beings change radically. They have to detach themselves
\nfrom the content of mankind’s consciousness, they have to live without
\ntouching the stream of growing vulgarity and violence. Egocentric activity has
\nto end, the desire for profit, power and prestige. One needs to learn to live
\npsychologically alone, that is to be content without depending on anybody or
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\nRuben: That they detach themselves from the content of mankind’s
\nconsciousness?… then, how does one live?
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\nKrishnamurti: You don’t become comatose, you don’t enter into a drug or
\nalcohol induced trance, you don’t live in a state of hypnosis, nor asleep even
\nwhile awake. You live in complete attention. Are you aware that observation is
\nattention?
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\nRuben: Fundamental action.
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\nKrishnamurti: Observation is action. To observe totally doesn’t mean to be
\nnegligent nor socially indifferent. If you observe totally, each one of your
\nactions changes in nature. You free yourself from the choking grip of
\ntraditional memory and you also start to think sanely and freely. So there is
\ntotal observation and new thought and action.
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\n(We spent a long time in silence)
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\nRuben: Are you greater than Jesus?
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\nKrishnamurti: Do you want me to say “yes”?
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\nRuben: Tell me what do you think?
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\nKrishnamurti: Mankind is not the same. In the last 2000 years there have
\nbeen three wars every year in the world and there has been a consequent
\ndegradation of human beings, the son of humanity can not be the same.
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\nRuben: You are talking of the Son of Man (with capital letters) aren’t you?
\nYou are talking of the Greek “uios tou antropon” (the son of man). Aren’t you?
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\nKrishnamurti: The son of humanity is today the son of a degraded mankind.
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\nRuben: I listen to Krishnamurti. <\/font><\/p>\n
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\nKrishnamurti: For how long? <\/font><\/p>\n
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\nRuben: Until I understand and radical change occurs. <\/font><\/p>\n
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\nKrishnamurti: Be a light to yourself. Stop procrastination. Throw away the
\ncontent of consciousness. There has to be pure consciousness, pure awareness,
\npure listening.
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\nRuben: When I asked you whether I could speak publicly you said, “you
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\nKrishnamurti: You speak. “That” is not only for you.
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\nRuben: Can you tell me more about talking to people about all this?
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\nKrishnamurti: You talk and expect no-thing.
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\n*(long pause, in vital silence)* Krishnamurti had said “no-thing”, he had not
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